yes Hello I am new to this web site, I came across this site doing a google search on how to build a site.
Started reading the home page here and liked the way everything was worded, so here I am.
I had a few web sites on yahoo of my own that were the free ones in geocities
a few years back, with links etc. for stock market.
my Question is I am thinking of building a site I guess like this one here, wanted to know is there a limit of how many users you can have logged in at the same time.
also is there a limit on how many users you can have that need passwords and user names to get on your site
I Have a small Heating and Air conditioning business, service repair install etc.
well a few weeks ago I noticed I was not on the Internet only in yellow book.
I decided to put my business in yahoo search engine and a few other places
mechantcircle & olx, domesticsale, usfreeads and some others.
then I thought of building a web site for my business.
now after reading how sites charge people to advertise on them as I searched for places to post my business on. that looked professional.
I found there really are not that many out there.
now I am thinking of building a web site that businesses like me can advertise on, first 2 months or even 3 months free then after that charge them a small fee for every three months they run there ad.
well the thing is in order to do this and make the site look professional I would have to give them a user name and a password plus able to load pics etc
I spent the last few weeks in my spar time reading up on this, then I came across this site.
if the internet is up at the 17 billion dollar marker in 2007 advertisements and still has a long way to grow, I would Just like to have a little peace of it not much.
any ideas or answers would greatly be Appreciated

You said that you wanted to make a website kind of like this. I just wanted clarify that, yes, this is a website, however, more specifically, it's a forum. As far as the management of users on this forum, Lisa (the administrator) manages it, however, the amount of users and what not is usually up to the company that creates the forum (vBulletin). If you wanted to actually create a website yourself that allowed for users to login, you'd have to know not only about web design, but also about web programming (which is a completely different field). I'm sure that there are tons of sites that help you with login / logout, username / password type of deal, but I, myself, have never looked into it because I am web programmer.

Something else to start thinking about, and I'm not trying to sound skeptical or anything, I'm just trying to be realistic, is that your site will have to be VERY well known for people to want to advertise on your site...especially if you're going to have them pay for it. It's not something that you can just start up overnight. You have to build rapport and gain trust first.

I would suggest that until your site gets well known, you might want to look into Google Adsense. Google Adsense is a free program that anyone who manages a website can be a part of (of course, assuming that your site follows Google's rules and regulations). It basically allows all webmasters to post constantly updating and changing ads on their site for profit. So, it's the same type of idea that you are going for with your site, with the exception of instead of having them pay you for your webspace, they are paying you for each click that they receive from your site.

I hope that makes sense!

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BS in Information Systems Management
Systems Engineer and Project Technical Manager

http://www.amazingtechguys.com
http://www.vccandles.com

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I am not good with the terminology, sorry I did not mean to build a web site from the ground up.
I meant I wanted to build a web site using the programs etc. u need to put it together.
I know it takes a lot to build it from scratch.
also yes I know its hard to get the traffic going on a new site, when I had my free sites on yahoo in 1998 unitl 2001 before the word trade center was attacked and the stock market went down the tubes.
My website was generating between 5,000 and 10,000 visits a week I had like 5 different pages
that all linked together some had links that had stock research all free stuff I put up on the geocities site
also I had a few free sites on aol and that linked up to my yahoo sites.
I had a few pages with a java based real time quotes, I found and was aloud to put on my site people could type in a stock symbol and watch it trade and see how many shares were trading in real time and what they were going for etc.
also I had some good links on the pages people could find great info on what they were trading etc.
and real time things that were anounced in real time of the net like a stock split or a buy back etc.
I would through my link into the yahoo stock message boards , like a big message like SYMBOL AMZN
Amazon at the time it was was having a 3 for 1 share split and every second people were posting on yahoo stock boards about it also another one was MSFT microsoft.
after posting my quotes link there I would see like 200 visitors in a matter of minutes of the post
also I was posting on another stock site raging bull think the name is changed now
I had some penny a click or 3 cents a click links all around my site from LYCOS that had to do with the market but they were not that great and no one clicked on em much.
also I had a couple of stock tickers going across the top of a few pages in the site that had stocks symbols I had put in that had a lot going on at that time, I picked them up from big charts .com they were free to post on your site another copy and paste
anyway after a while I stopped posting my site on the messages boards and I still had the traffic from people I guess that saved.
it took a long time to get it built up but, then when the world trade center was attacked and the stock market went down the tubes so did my traffic
also now that java booklet for free quotes is no more either.
I think I know enough to get the traffic going its just my knowledge on building the site is very limited and most of it will be done from copy and paste

I Know if there was something on this site that I like and I wanted to know more about it, I know I can right click on this page here and on the menu that pops up I would then left click VIEW SOURCE, also I know if I was looking for something in that there notepad I could left click on the edit tab then left click on find and type in the word I am looking for and find it in there and see how it was all put together, were it came from.

also I know if I keep this page here open and check one hour later I right click on the page and left click refresh to see if I have a reply.
but my knowledge is very limited and that's why I am here.
still wanted to know what program or how would I find out how many people can join my site with a password etc. how does this work etc thank for your input in advance.

Well it sounds like a great plan and 10,000 visitors is a great amount to be having visiting your site especially on a free web host.

As Jaress said you would definitely need some experience to make a site like this of your own using your own material. But there's definitely some good solutions out there if you aren't prepared to go for that route.

http://www.websitebabble.com/web-des...guide-cms.html

Above is something called a CMS its capable of multiple login features, built in forums and upload functions so your users have a little bit of control. And the best part its all completely free.

Good luck.

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I too am very interested in advertising. I actually had a similar idea. But I soon realized that I had to have a lot of eyes on my site to charge people.

Let's put it like this:

In the real world, you might have some property and you decide to put up a billboard to sell ad space. The problem is that your property is on a back road in the desert. No one knows you are there. So if you want to keep your location and sell ad space, you need to convince some developers to help you build up the area around you so the the city you are located in will build a highway right past your front door. The more people drive by your front door, the more advertisers will want your billboard.

I wasn't planning on saying all of that... lol

But, if there is one thing I have learned in this forum, it's: build a useful site and learn to market it! The key word is USEFUL. You need to put what people need or want on your site.

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FYI - This post is long, but stick with it till the end. I think you'll get something out of it...I hope.

Wow, that's good traffic! However, keep in mind that a truly successful site especially with advertising is gonna require those kinds of numbers per DAY though!

So, I think that what you're trying to do is create a site from the ground up, but you're not sure about how to go about creating it yourself. So, you are looking for a source of website stuff where you can basically cut and paste your stuff into the page. I think I got that right...

Anyway, if that's the case, then if you "Google" the term "Free website templates" you'll probably find a good amount of stuff on there to get you started.

But what I was trying to say earlier is that a login page is probably not something that you're going to find in a "cut and paste" type of manner. The reason is (and I know that you don't know the terminology), a login page connects to a database. A database is a place where information is stored. The database is physically stored on the same server where your website is located. Anyway, the main reason why you're probably not going to find any helpful scripts for this is because you also need to have a database to connect to. In the past, you have gone with free hosts like Geocities and Yahoo!. However, if you want to actually implement this type of login technology, you're most likely going to have to purchase web hosting space from someone like GoDaddy. Even when you purchase the web hosting, (you can use your free templates) you will still have to know how to work a database in order to get your login page working.

Another reason why it's hard to find source coding is that (and the beginning website designer doesn't know this), there are two types of pages: static and dynamic. A static page is much like a newspaper. Once its content is published, you can't really change it unless you go to that exact page and edit it. It's much the same with a static site. Once you have written your html page, the content is not changed unless you go back and make changes in that exact html file. Believe it or not, there are other ways to make sites, but they are really complex. For instance, the dynamic site. The dynamic site is a site that pulls its content from a database. Which means that once the site is built, the updates will come from not updating the pages, but updating the database. The problem with this from a beginning designer's viewpoint is that nothing can be seen as far how this is done by clicking on "View Source." A perfect example of this is my website: http://www.amazingtechguys.com/beta/Login.aspx. If you go to that page and right-click "View Source," you will find that it appears to be static HTML tags and a BUNCH of javascript, when they are actually dynamic calls to the database (The actual design of the page looks nothing like this...it's A LOT easier!). The browser (Internet explorer, Firefox, etc.) does not render these dynamic calls for what they are. It renders it as static HTML, which means that viewing the source will never show you how a login is done...Sorry to burst your bubble.

As Rob stated above, the CMS section on this forum is a good place to start.

Anyway, I may have confused you...I'm not trying to. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Jaress Loo
BS in Information Systems Management
Systems Engineer and Project Technical Manager

http://www.amazingtechguys.com
http://www.vccandles.com

I thank everyone for there repliys on this.
I did a google search on message boards that are easy to use and set up, I Came accross this site here http://www.websitetoolbox.com/message_board/

up in the left hand corner facing your screen they have ( live examples ) if you left click on it.
it shows websites with this message board and you can click on them and check them out.

well anyway I was reading reviews on there message board on another part of the site and one person had said they never had a board and found it very easy to use.
just thought I would post it to get some advise from the experts here does it look good for a beginner like me.

That looks like a pretty good site!

Here's a site where you can test out the management of a message board for free before actually spending a monthly fee on one though... it's a GREAT tool!!!!

at least check it out!!!

http://www.freeforums.org

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Jaress Loo
BS in Information Systems Management
Systems Engineer and Project Technical Manager

http://www.amazingtechguys.com
http://www.vccandles.com

nice site ^^ really good job im working on mine its gunna have a amazing layout ^^ its a game tourny site.

I Checked it out looks like a nice site thank's

sorry I replied so late, I have been real busy with my Heating & Air Condition Bussiness for a while now doing massive mail outs its working just takes time and it cost around 60 cents for each mail out between the copies the envolopes and the stamps along with my time printing out one address at a time on each envolope.
but its worth it so fare sent out 4,000 in last month.
nothing is easy
Thanks again

I hate to be mean, so don't take this the wrong way, but...

If you REALLY want a successful site, you're going to have to type a little better than you do...

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that's Ok you can speak your mind or type your thoughts, at least I know someone is reading my posts here.
I am from the baby boomer generation, maybe there is a gap in the way you see my post or something like that.
remember in 1980 when I went to school to work on video games and juke boxes, pinballs etc.
they had 8 to 16 bit binary word's, the it jumped to 16, 32, 64 then 128 then the board were made small to.
now look we have cell phones that hold more information then one of those big old games.
its amazing isn't .
this would be a four bit word 0001 or 0011 or 0111 or 1111 or 0000 or 0101
all them little bits of information would make up the picture on your tv screen or video game etc.
thats when pac man was a big thing.
and the old slot machines mechanical then they changed them over
the way to figure the odds on the old slots was well on a 21 symbol per reel slot machine with three reels.
21x21= 441 x 21= 9,261 so your odds of hitting the jackpot were 9,261

now on a slot with 4 reels the odds were alot greater
the old boards on some of that stuff, when a chip went we would have to use what was called a solder sucker heat up each prong and suck up solder til we did them all then remove it.
in today world they juss toss the boards and replace em


am I babbleing to much yes I thought so to.