How Long Before Success? - Page 2

webdev · #16 (**permalink**) 04-19-2007, 06:47 PM

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Just my 2 cents... my brother bought sbi a while back and it took him about 4 months to make his investment back. I was impressed. I may buy it one day to do another site, but I just don't have the funds right now.

how much does it cost anyway?

lisa · #17 (**permalink**) 04-19-2007, 08:10 PM

It's $299 per year.

webdev · #18 (**permalink**) 04-19-2007, 08:37 PM

$299 is not bad.
Is that including hosting? Can you buy just the marketing and SEO services individually?

amybiddle · #19 (**permalink**) 04-19-2007, 09:15 PM

Sorry webdev - they don't offer menu pricing. If you consider the monthly expense of the entire package, you could end up paying 10x more for all the features. It's really a good deal. I won't go back.

max · #20 (**permalink**) 04-20-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amybiddle

If you consider the monthly expense of the entire package, you could end up paying 10x more for all the features. It's really a good deal. I won't go back.

And that's exactly why I bought it. I had someone do a site for me years ago. They charged me $500 for the site and an additional fee for ongoing maintenance and additions. So I wanted a newsletter, well they were going to charge me for that. I wanted search engine traffic and they were going to charge me for submissions but they couldn't guarantee a good ranking. I bought sbi because all that stuff is included and then some.

It boggles my mind that some people bark at the price. That is a STEAL compared to what you would have to pay if you outsourced all that sbi provides for only $299 a year.

Now... I just need to get myself in gear and get GOING on my site and make it happen!

webdev · #21 (**permalink**) 04-20-2007, 06:20 PM

Well come to think of it, $299 for hosting, web marketing and seo (not sure what other stuff they do for you) is remarkable. If they deliever what they promise (as i have seen from people here, seems like they are good at their stuff) then i don't mind getting their help either. However my problem would be i don't need hosting or any tech help. i just need them to help with the write ups for my tutorial site, marketing and seo and getting traffic. Not sure if they can do that?

amybiddle · #22 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 05:45 AM

Webdev - maybe SBI isn't for you.

It isn't that SBI does web marketing per se for me. It's that the tools benefit me (tremendously) in that area.

I don't have to submit or resubmit my site to the search engines. SBI handle's that for me, as a tool.

They don't create content for me. They aren't a support service or help-desk for my readers (although they have GREAT customer service for their own customers - me - and a fantastic help-desk).

I create a content-based web site. My main effort is creating content. The main thrust of the model is CTPM - Content - Traffic - PreSelling - Monetization.

By doing certain tasks in that order (with a lot of guidance from the SBI Action Guide, another tool for keeping certain tasks on track), a new SBIer has a combination business plan and task list that ends in success.

Approaching site building in a more traditional method as a coder, or in terms of servers and SEO and such, in some ways doesn't apply. SBI creates an environment for a total package (and yes, there are lots of people who are as technically capable as you who have very successful SBI sites!)

One comes to mind right now - Marc Liron of updatexp.com. He's a Microsoft VIP with a huge SBI site, lots of great traffic (over 1million page views and over half million unique visitors per month!)- he's very technically capable and could build any kind of site he wants with any coding or tools or whatever. But he chose SBI. He participates, along with many others of us at varying levels of tech ability, in the forums.

So, would an SBI site help you? I believe it's good for anyone who wants an online presence. I don't work for SiteSell and I have no benefit in telling you that it's good. They just don't, to my knowledge, offer breakout services or menu pricing.

I'd just say do some more due diligence.

lisa · #23 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 08:27 AM

Great points, Amy. I think it should definitely be made clear that SBI! provides all the tools in one place, you do the work. It's not like you buy the product and they are in charge of marketing your site. They simply arm you with the knowledge and teach you how to optimize your pages. And you'll also have access to a database chock full of articles (a lot written by SBI! owners themselves) explaining how to make more money and build traffic to your site.

SBI! is certainly not for everyone. If you want to build a database or need to do CHMODs to your files, etc. then you won't have access to those features like you would with a standard host. So if you were trying to build a community based (MySpace-like) site then I certainly wouldn't recommend it for that.

But what a lot of more technically savvy people are finding out is that they can buy SBI! to build a simple content-rich site (or tutorial site) and use that to drive traffic to some of their non SBI! sites.

But the point is, you do the work (except for the SE submissions, monitoring and rank reporting). SBI! simply provides the guides and tools all in one place.

webdev · #24 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 08:39 AM

amy, thanks for the info. Oh! i didn't mean that i was expecting them to create content for me. I will be creating the content but i would like that content to be revised for it to sell itself on the internet.

So CTPM is model what i''m looking for in some sense with the emphasize on getting traffic and monetizing your web pages.

Speaking of technicalities in my site. I want to keep it as simple as possible but the support of creating web pages with php+mysql on their server will greatly benefit, as i can keep things automated and won't have to manually insert any new content to my website manually. All will be done through database and scripts.

With that being said, this is good starting point. I want to learn more about SBI, and how they can help me. Let say if you want SBI to built your site? What is the process you go through when you approach them with an website. Do you have to have the website already running? How do they help. Sorry, i know my questions may not make sense but i just want to get an idea how they help you create a traffic rich site.

webdev · #25 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 09:20 AM

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But what a lot of more technically savvy people are finding out is that they can buy SBI! to build a simple content-rich site (or tutorial site) and use that to drive traffic to some of their non SBI! sites.

Since my goal is to build a content rich site, i think i should focus more on the aspect of building content that doing other stuff. Instead of diverting my focus on technical aspects of the site i should be focusing on the conetnt because that what is going to drive my site. As a tutorial site, it doesn't have to be complex. So i should be okay with no technical features.

I looked at updatexp.com. Its a most simple site but has a page rank of 6 and averaging 6000 hits a day according to Alexa which is quite amazing. This is really motivational and also proves i guess that simple looking content sites do well too.

With that being said, i wanna further explore how SBI works. Do they personally hep you on individual basis? or you have to go through their resources and dig out information yourself?

webdev · #26 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 02:17 PM

I came across this helpful review on site build it. It basically explains in nutshell how it works. It gave me a good idea on what i can expect.
http://www.web-source.net/review9.htm

Also their "compare chart" gave me good overview on what they do.
http://compare.sitesell.com/

I will be digging for more information on them and will post here. I'm now seriously considering getting site build it

lisa · #27 (**permalink**) 04-21-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by webdev

Speaking of technicalities in my site. I want to keep it as simple as possible but the support of creating web pages with php+mysql on their server will greatly benefit, as i can keep things automated and won't have to manually insert any new content to my website manually. All will be done through database and scripts.

With that being said, this is good starting point. I want to learn more about SBI, and how they can help me. Let say if you want SBI to built your site? What is the process you go through when you approach them with an website. Do you have to have the website already running? How do they help. Sorry, i know my questions may not make sense but i just want to get an idea how they help you create a traffic rich site.

Hey Webdev,

Unfortunately you won't have php and mysql support yet, but SiteSell is rolling out Content 2.0 very soon and PHP will be supported. But I agree, it sounds to me like if you want to create a tutorial/information type site then SBI! is the way to go.

When you buy your website is not up and running. You are presented with a 10-day action guide (HTML or video version). You start by brainstorming and using the built in brainstorming tool provided that allows you to search on keyword demand and supply. It's a combination of Wordtracker and some other proprietary software exclusively used by SBI!.

Once you've determined the best domain for your site, SBI! registers it for you and then you proceed to use the tools to build your site. As you create each page there is an "Analyze It!" button. This tells you how to optimize this page for the keywords you are targeting. It will give you tips on adding more keywords and more importantly subtracting keywords if they feel you've added too many.

My SBI! site gets found for literally 10,000 different keywords each month. All because I optimize each new page with different keywords but all related to my main theme. (six pack, love handles, crunches etc.)

The compare chart is what sells a lot of people. I know it seems a little bit like hype but it is very true that you would have to pay a boat load of money to receive the tools SBI! provides for just one small fee per year.

There are also forums you'll have access to should you have questions. The forums are flooded with tons of successful SBI! owners who are eager to help newbies. The money that some people are making is amazing. My site pays for itself and then some but it doesn't hold a candle to what some of those folks are doing.

Check out http://results.sitesell.com to get an idea of the wide range of topics people have used. At one time there was a site on that for cat urine... yes cat urine!

bwjksmtt · #28 (**permalink**) 08-18-2007, 07:15 AM

how much does this cost

lisa · #29 (**permalink**) 08-18-2007, 09:27 AM

$299 per year.

psyclist · #30 (**permalink**) 08-24-2007, 09:02 AM

Hello

I see this thread coming back in my traffic stats because somebody claims to be the webmaster of my website. [links removed per forum rules] Any more questions?

OK, here's my part in the discussion. The question I always have is this: do you want to make money online and focus on what you love? If the answer is yes then SBI is what you need. It's not, as already is pointed out, a quick rich scheme. My Pangkor site started to generate money after about 6 months. My three sides (which is THREE seperate packages) earn themself easy back. I have a life in Malaysia that is based on the websites.

The good thing about SBI is that you don't have to bother about a lot of tech stuff though if you insist, you CAN. I prefer not. I prefer to write about the things I like and let SBI do the rest.

Now there are webmasters who say that SBI is nice for webmaster beginners. To them I would say: have a look at www.updatexp.com from Marc Liron. He gave up his 7000 pounds a month job for Microsoft to work with his SBI sites. Liron was a manager in the UK and is still a MVP for Microsoft.

SBI is a system that works. There's other systemsthat work but I don't think there's a system so easy and so extensive as SBI. BUT.... SBI only works if you follow the system. In other words: do as you told by the action guide. I know a guy here who didn't and he failed fully. Do your brainstorm, out of the brainstorm you will generate your domain name, and then you start working on content.... content and more content. You will build links, and thus a reputation. It doesn't really matter what you subject is though I don't think Internet Marketing is a good subject as EVERYBODY seems to be a guru these days and most are simply fakes. Choose a good subject.

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Peter

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