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    I decided on the end of the month (Feb 29th) Sorry, thought I put that in my first message.

    The real issue is I do not want to use vBulletin anymore. Too many exploits so I don't know how I could keep the content in its current format unless I continue using it. I'd much rather use a WP plugin if I were to continue a forum. The downside to that is I may not be able to keep the content.

    I'll do some more research. But regardless of what I do, I have to weigh the cost/benefit of having a forum. It's not active enough to warrant me spending too much time and resources on it. So whatever I ultimately do, it needs to make sense business wise.

    I'll be setting up a landing page to collect emails for those who want to keep up with what I decide. That way, if I do open something else up, you can stay informed.

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    Bummer! I never got full rep.... But you gotta do what you gotta do. But I would be interested in buying WebsiteBabbble.

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    Can you make an archivie available for download?

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    Thanks for all the time you have spent on this forum. I appreciate it.

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    I think we all saw this coming, but it was a question of when. The activity has trickled down and it's no secret about the malware and spam issues.

    A lot of Internet marketers are running Facebook private groups to avoid the headaches of running forums. No, you don't own the platform, but that is easily solved by requiring people to opt-in to a list before granting them access. Then, if Facebook shuts down your group, you still have the emails of all your members.

    So Lisa you could turn websitebabble.com into a squeeze page where you ask for the person's email address that they use for Facebook, and then manually add them to your Facebook private group, which you could still brand as Website Babble.

    I can't speak for other members, but as a member myself, I wouldn't feel comfortable about the idea of Lisa selling the forum. I joined because I trusted Lisa with my content and I would be uncomfortable if it were to change hands to a stranger whose plans for what they are going to do with the forum I don't know and I potentially might not want my content to be associated with. It would be 'selling out' and I'm confident Lisa wouldn't do that.

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    A Facebook group is a good idea. I belong to a couple of these and they work well privately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisa View Post
    And I just noticed this forum no longer loads in Firefox anymore. I just get a non-styled version. A mess! Who knows how long it's been like that.
    Personally I always log on forums with firefox (on mac) and I have no problem of the sort. But this is just an observation. Nothing prevents you from doing what you want of this forum, because it's yours, that's the advantage of owning web properties :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlo View Post
    I think we all saw this coming, but it was a question of when. The activity has trickled down and it's no secret about the malware and spam issues.

    A lot of Internet marketers are running Facebook private groups to avoid the headaches of running forums. No, you don't own the platform, but that is easily solved by requiring people to opt-in to a list before granting them access. Then, if Facebook shuts down your group, you still have the emails of all your members.

    So Lisa you could turn websitebabble.com into a squeeze page where you ask for the person's email address that they use for Facebook, and then manually add them to your Facebook private group, which you could still brand as Website Babble.

    I can't speak for other members, but as a member myself, I wouldn't feel comfortable about the idea of Lisa selling the forum. I joined because I trusted Lisa with my content and I would be uncomfortable if it were to change hands to a stranger whose plans for what they are going to do with the forum I don't know and I potentially might not want my content to be associated with. It would be 'selling out' and I'm confident Lisa wouldn't do that.
    I wouldn't feel right selling it either and have already been asked by 3 different people. lol The answer is no. I feel like this name is part of my brand no matter what and it would feel weird knowing someone could buy it and do God knows what with it! lol But even if I did sell it, I wouldn't sell the content. I'd erase it first. That would lower the value, but it would feel weird selling everyone's posts essentially. I would feel icky. lol

    But back to the FB group idea now THAT I kinda like! Never thought I'd be in favor of a platform I don't own but as you said, I could collect email addresses prior to joining. Hmmmm..... something to think about for sure.

    I'm so glad you guys and gals are giving me ideas. I really don't want to leave all 8 of you who stuck around (LOL!!) high and dry. But you are giving me ideas. I'm not a huge fan of FB but this is definitely something to consider.

    Strange, James. The forum is messed up in IE and Firefox on my computer. Not sure why. It's messed up on my Mac too.

    Zach, what I'd like to do is find a way to leave a static version up just for reference. Making it static will eliminate the malware issues (no PHP) and people can still reference the information.

    And well said, arichrdc. Sums it up perfectly.

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    Lisa, I hope you do consider a FB WB group. Is a G+ (private) community possible?
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    I for one will not be participating in a facebook group. I am trying as hard as I can to stay away from it for various reasons, and I really don't think this forum would translate well to it.

    I vote for a WordPress powered by forum on a dedicated host. The moderators can be given subscriber status and their own login.

    The forum could be built in WAMP easily and uploaded to 2createawebsite.com/forum

    You could even use the exact same theme used at blog.2createawebsite.com by cloning it and then removing the posts/pages.

    Whatever happens, www.websitebabble.com is too valuable to let go. If you did go for a FB group, I would redirect the websitebabble.com URL to the the group.

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    Moving the forum still doesn't remedy the time investment/benefit problem, only the malware problem (possibly). It's also clear that no matter what I do, it's not going to suit everyone. At the end of the day I have to do what makes the most sense for the bottom line.

    Still thinking...

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    Well,, It was short but sweet.

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    I agree. I have managed forums for others and it is a massive time commitment.

    I think the Facebook group is a good idea. Could also be a LinkedIn group.
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    Couldn't you hire someone, like Darren is saying, to move the site over to WP? Wouldn't that address some of the security issues? I bet you'd get more revenue/traffic, the whole nine yards, if it was a simple click on your 2createawebsite homepage.

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