Is SEO Dying? You Bet! - Page 2

PeterM · #16 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 05:10 AM

I think it will be keyword specific, but i don't think anyone really knows for certain, apart from G.

lisa · #17 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Savit

So does having a single visitor who stays for 20 minutes help me to rank better for other keywords as well ?

All replies and suggestions appreciated.

It's a collective thing. One visitor is not going to make much difference but if 70% of your traffic that finds you in google with that keyword tends to stick around longer then yes, it can help with your ranking for that phrase I believe.

Kerry · #18 (**permalink**) 03-23-2008, 09:48 PM

This kind of valuable info is great seeing as I am new to the game!

I just got started on my site, and because I'm using SBI!- I feel I am already ahead of the game...

CONTENT CONTENT CONTENT & a few helpful keywords LOL!

Savit · #19 (**permalink**) 03-24-2008, 02:36 AM

Hello Lisa,

I agree with your logic as it makes lots of sense and considering Google, I think it will be the solution they may be loking at.

Thanks for your reply.

Lajocar · #20 (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ppcFanatic

Yeah I try to warn these guys and they just keep flaming me saying I don't know what I'm talking about yet their sites continue to lose their ranks. I actually think it's rather amusing. They could be using that time to write articles for ezinearticles rather than trying to figure out keyword density, etc.

Forget link building, keyword density etc. just focus on writing quality content. your ranking will sort itself out. Go back to the basics which is writing quality content. People themselves will link to your site.

Yes, Google is looking at time spend by users on webpages. Coming back to my earlier point. If you have quality content then people will stay longer on your site. Stickiness factor.

SEO is alive and well and I can prove it with some my own sites and clients sites that I've worked on.

Belly · #21 (**permalink**) 09-19-2008, 05:41 AM

I think it all depends on how you define SEO.

In the early days it was quiet easy. You had to have the wright keyworddensity, some nice metatags and description and lots of backlinks. That was it.

Now you have tons of factors you have to take into consideration.

But saying "build up a site with good and relevant content which is interesting for the user and you archieve a good ranking" is wrong. At least for hard keywords.

guzie · #22 (**permalink**) 10-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Seo is not dead but it is slowly fading away. It is being replaced by LSI or Latent Semantic indexing. Websites and forums that discuss this new mathamatical keyword search are somewhat vague and sometimes hard to understand but it boils down to what many of us already know. And that is build, write, blog and develop websites with your own knowledge stop worrying about keyword density, meta tags, and most of all trying to keep up with the algorithms.

ewdowney · #23 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 12:05 PM

I don't think SEO is dead. It's just taking a back seat to inbound links and the quality of those inbound links. Along with seeing who is pointing at your site, that's #1 for Google, they also take into consideration your content, and then finally things like h1 tags, bolded words, etc.

lisa · #24 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 01:17 PM

I guess it depends on how you define SEO. The original SEO with meta tags, keyword density, etc. is pretty dead but we've had to redefine what the term really means. And I agree, it's now all about relevant, quality inbound links.

Levi · #25 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ewdowney

I don't think SEO is dead. It's just taking a back seat to inbound links and the quality of those inbound links. Along with seeing who is pointing at your site, that's #1 for Google, they also take into consideration your content, and then finally things like h1 tags, bolded words, etc.

Those all work for sure but I don't hear anyone talking about videos when it comes to SEO. Search engines absolutely love videos!

Here's a quick tip if you want to start generating traffic and quickly get indexed in Google. Begin making videos about your niche, site, expertise, etc. and upload them to YouTube.com.

Once you done that, I highly recommend going to TubeMogul.com and signing up for a free account. TubeMogul allows you to submit your videos (similar to YouTube) but they automatically submit your videos to all the major video sharing websites on the net!

Try this and you will absolutely generate traffic. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

Levi

James · #26 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 06:44 PM

As Lisa says, inbound links are a primary concern now. And as Lisa (elsewhere) and Levi point out, videos seem to be getting a lot of attention.

Many of these things my bring us traffic which is very important, but not all traffic comes through search engines. Links can bring us traffic directly, AND, if google (and all) choose, they may increase our search engine traffic.

The more important operative word is not SEO (yes, I know that is three words!) at all, the important word is marketing. This is true for any business. And marketing for websites is largely measured by traffic, but also by what people do when they get to our sites.

It is always key to keep our minds on the the real objective. If it is sales we are looking for then less traffic with more sales is preferable, for example.

SEO is not dead, inspite of the headlines. SEO in the narrow sense of getting search engines to find you will always be important, just less subject to manipulation unless you want to think of putting up good content as being manipulation.

Links are proving to be the best way to get traffic today, perhaps. But we need to keep this in mind, too. The only thing we can be certain of is change. Tomorrow there may be something else we are not even thinking of now that will be even more important for SEO and other traffic.

So SEO is not dead and never will be. But it may be less important in the general scheme of our business objectives.

jazzguy · #27 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

Those all work for sure but I don't hear anyone talking about videos when it comes to SEO. Search engines absolutely love videos!

Here's a quick tip if you want to start generating traffic and quickly get indexed in Google. Begin making videos about your niche, site, expertise, etc. and upload them to YouTube.com.

Once you done that, I highly recommend going to TubeMogul.com and signing up for a free account. TubeMogul allows you to submit your videos (similar to YouTube) but they automatically submit your videos to all the major video sharing websites on the net!

Try this and you will absolutely generate traffic. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

Levi

Nice tip Levi...

Thanks for that.

lisa · #28 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 09:10 PM

So true, Levi. Yes, I can't tell you how many times I've seen a YouTube video on the top of Google's results.

Levi · #29 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzguy

Nice tip Levi...

Thanks for that.

No problem jazzguy!

Exactly, Lisa. It's almost guaranteed that Google will serve up a video or two on the first page of every search term.

I love it!

Savit · #30 (**permalink**) 10-27-2008, 01:54 AM

Hello,

I definitely agree with you all the G prefers to rank videos on top ranking, but is it only if its hosted on YouTube or such video sharing sites which gets very high traffic. Or I can have them hosted on the same server with my website and yet see it comming in top results.

As I would prefer to host it on the same server which can further help me to retain my site visitor.

So does the great G have preference for videos hosted on YouTube ?

Looking forward to your replies.

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