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Old 09-16-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Affiliates, How are you doing business on Google NOW?

How are you affiliate marketers doing business on Googles since thier new position of only allowing 1 ad per Domain?
Has this affected your business advertising and how?
What are you doing to overcome any restrictions with Google Ads?

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Old 09-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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You mean pay per click ads right? Not natural results.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:45 PM
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... (Moving thread to Pay per Click Advertising forum)

If I understand your question correctly, this one ad per domain name is not a new policy. It's been around a while. I don't use AdWords, though so I can't comment. Maybe ppcfanatic can share his experience.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:17 PM
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That's true, Lisa... Google Adwords will not show more than one ad with the same top level domain name.

For me, it's never been a problem, since I usually do not link directly to the merchant page, especially if I know I have competition. What I do is to create a landing page through my own domain, where I can pre-sell and provide more relevant information, or collect name/email addresses, etc.

If I am linking directly from my ad to the merchants page, then I am smart about it... I only bid on super targeted keywords that I don't have much competition (even if the niche is competitive)

Honestly, though, I have not used Google Adwords for a while, I have been using other search engines.

Hope this made sense.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:57 PM
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Hmm I thought I already replied to this thread.

I would use a landing page as ssmorgan, its better than bidding on a domain that hundreds of other people are probably doing. Plus, using your own domain could lower costs dramatically when it comes to Google Adwords.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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ssmorgan, can you elaborate on landing pages?

Some merchants put in the time to build great converting landing pages that are good enough to get leads. How is your landing pages different from them?

For example, if you were promoting a ebook. The merchant has it own landing page which you can redirect to. What would you do different in your landing page? What would the landing page contain? would you put the same form on your landing page and post the leads directly to the merchant? I always get confused why people make their own landing pages and how are those landing pages different then the merchant landing pages?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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sorry i couldn't resist asking the question about landing pages. i read a lot about people giving a great deal of emphasis on creating their own landing pages on other forums but i don't know what they do different in their landing pages to lure sign ups. i never seen any examples.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:28 PM
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Landing pages are great for different reasons:

1) reviews/comparisons for different products. Here is a very bad example I created: http://www.connexins.com/BackPain
You will see I have reviewed several products about the same topic. All of the links are my Clickbank affiliate links.

2) pre-sell a specific product OR relate a specific product to a specific target or market. I have also successfully used landing pages to promote only one product.

3) Using a landing page as an opt-in form (aka squeeze page):
You provide information that hit certain buttons of your target market, and then entice them with a giveaway or something of that sort to have them enter their names and email addresses... then, by email, you can establish a relationship with your opt-in list by providing them with useful information, reviews, and once you develop trust, you can start promoting certain products.

There are probably other purposes for landing pages, but I am kind of spacing out right now... anyway, here are important elements of a good landing page:

1) an attention-grabbing title that hits a button or creates doubt/concern in your target population.

2) in your text, use key phrases or concerns of your target market. For example, notice in my landing page example above, I said "are you worried that you're destined for a life of pain", or "do you long to the simple things in life...", etc. Now, I decided to use these phrases because in my online research, I have found that these are some of the common concerns of people who are experiencing chronic back pain.

3) reviews of different products giving them "grades" or "ranks".

4) clear exit links to your affiliate products

5) Visuals! Show pictures that represent the mental/physical state of your target population. Toward the top of the page, it's good to show a picture of the problem (a picture of someone hunched over b/c of the back pain) and at the end a picture of someone who is happy to give his partner a piggy back ride (obviously someone who does not suffer from back pain)... sorry, it's lame, but I think the principle works well.

Also, keep in mind that the purpose of a landing page is to convert! So, no distractions, I don't even put Google Ads (because my goal is not earn 30 or 40 cents per click, I want to convert my affiliate links and earn 14 or 15 dollars).

Now, how do you promote a landing page? Tons of ways:

1) PPC

2) Write a blog entry! Now, sticking with the back pain example, you could write a blog entry (assuming that you have a blog about back pain) about the importance of exercises to eliminate back pain. Then you put a link to the landing page with affiliate links to products about specific, useful, or helpful exercises.

3) An Ezine Article! In the author bio box, you can say something like, "To Discover Proven Exercises To Help You Eliminate Back Pain, Visit My Back Pain Exercises Reviews" or something like that.

4) Squidoo Lens! Create a Squidoo lens or two with useful information that pertain to people who suffer from back pain, then link to your landing page.

5) From your own website. If you have a website about back pain, it would be a good idea to link to your landing page following an article

6) Any Other Way You Think Of!

This by no means is a comprehensive review/guide to landing pages, this was just a rambling session that captures my experiences with landing pages. I hope this was a little helpful

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Old 09-18-2007, 06:07 AM
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I hope this was a little helpful
Extremely helpful. Thanks for such extensive reply. I will review it once again and give my thoughts on it after i come back from work.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:03 PM
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Thanks for the reply Sherif. I have few follow up questions.

1. So the purpose of a landing page (in most cases) is to get the potential customer to "click and buy" through cleverly written titles, convincing images and supported content?

2. Why is a landing page necessary when the merchant has its own landing page?

For example, some merchants/advertisers will create landing pages for the affiliates to use yet affiliates see the need to make their own landing page. An example would a dating advertiser.

3. Sherif, in your experience does creating landing pages (with all the essential ingredients) convert well then directing to merchants landing page directly?

I've lost about $200 in PPC in last 2 months. I promoted web hosting through ppc. I know i'm not doing something right. But something tells me that hosting has low turn out ratio since its require a big purchase? I could be wrong.

4. Sherif, in your experience what kind of CPA campaigns have decent/good turn out. Leads or Sales?

I know the answer is probably leads, no credit-card leads (name, email, address, etc)

5) How do you determine which merchant/niche to promote? What do you mostly look at? Commission? Competition? How easy it would find good key words? How easy it would be to convert?
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