
08-07-2008, 08:47 AM
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New Alternatives to monetize?
Hey guys,
I’m looking to make a few (lots  ) more bucks from my traffic.
Any one have an idea?
I have tried a few of the classics obviously, but looking for new stuff, more effective?
Contextual, for sure, although I do have videos…
I’d hate it to be intrusive, something light…
Any help from you guys, most appreciated
ThanX
Lea
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08-07-2008, 09:39 AM
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Hi Lea,
Welcome! Well you said you've already tried to the "classics" so not sure if that includes programs like AdBrite. AdBrite is similar to AdSense but the payouts aren't quite as good. But they're are getting better. I have one of their CPC ads on my site now and it's doing quite well. Kontera is another but I find that to be intrusive (but I know that's subjective). Have you tried any of these?
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08-08-2008, 04:37 AM
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Thanks Lisa, great forum you got here BTW
Adbrite, I have heard of it, but haven't tried it yet - is it banners only?
As For Kontera, ya I have tried it, but I have videos on one of my websites, and I'd like to be able to monetize that as well...
Actually, I don't find that so intrusive, since the visitor chooses to click or not... and it doesn't really bother the view.
But right agian, Lisa, it is totally subjective
still open to suggestions... and searching
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08-17-2008, 01:13 PM
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New Alternatives to monetize? A Brand New Site...
If I can hijack this thread temporarily...
I have the same question but want to know specifically what besides Adsense would be good to experiment on a sight that has no affiliate or PPC set up on it yet?
My site that I am wanting an answer to this question on is aretheygurusdotcom.
This is a functional site. Please replace the "dot" with a period obviously...
Why I spelled it out that way is to avoid a search engine displaying this thread in the results of the site itself.
Suggestions from your perspective on this? If my site were yours and you were going to try out any new "money online" options, what would they be and why?
Thanks!
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08-17-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lea
Thanks Lisa, great forum you got here BTW
Adbrite, I have heard of it, but haven't tried it yet - is it banners only?
As For Kontera, ya I have tried it, but I have videos on one of my websites, and I'd like to be able to monetize that as well...
Actually, I don't find that so intrusive, since the visitor chooses to click or not... and it doesn't really bother the view.
But right agian, Lisa, it is totally subjective
still open to suggestions... and searching 
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Lea, AdBrite is not only banners. You can also serve up text ads similar to AdSense. Their targeting is not as good though but they do allow you to approve ads before being displayed on your site.
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Originally Posted by coosbaytv
If I can hijack this thread temporarily...
I have the same question but want to know specifically what besides Adsense would be good to experiment on a sight that has no affiliate or PPC set up on it yet?
My site that I am wanting an answer to this question on is aretheygurusdotcom.
This is a functional site. Please replace the "dot" with a period obviously...
Why I spelled it out that way is to avoid a search engine displaying this thread in the results of the site itself.
Suggestions from your perspective on this? If my site were yours and you were going to try out any new "money online" options, what would they be and why?
Thanks!
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coosbaytv,
I only use AdBrite and AdSense as of now. I haven't experimented with others but maybe other people can chime and speak on their experience. As far as other money making options, I would personally buy products that fit with your theme and review them. It seems your site is targeted toward people who want to make money.
Right now your "reviews" of the various gurus are more like short bios. You could really draw in more interest if you provided more detailed information on how each person can contribute to their success. Just trying to look at your site from a visitor's perspective. I know you didn't ask for a review of your site, but I'm trying to get you to think more along the terms of your site's goal (what is it other than to highlight gurus?) and I think when that is clear, you will be able to find more affiliate programs that will compliment your site.
There are tons of "how to books" online you could promote on ClickBank and other affiliate networks, but rather than me just suggesting a bunch of different affiliate programs and products to promote, it would be best to break down your blog into specific categories (ideas) of making money online and then feature the appropriate guru.
For example, if you had a section called "Making Money with an Auction Site" you could review the associated "guru" with that and provide a more detailed review of how their product can help your audience. Remember, people generally search by "theme" or "idea", not necessarily by "guru" so if you feature the idea as your main goal/topic and then review the associated guru, then I think that would be very useful to people reading your site.
Here's some advice for you and everyone here. When trying to find ways to make money from your site, think about the goal your site is trying to accomplish and search for products that fit that goal. Then see if that product has an affiliate program and promote it. That's the logic I tend to use when searching for ways to monetize. Also consider how people search the web. In your case coosbaytv, some people may be searching for gurus by name, but what they really want to know is "Who should I follow based on what I want to do with my site or blog?" Help them with that.
Then you just test, test, test, to see what works. I've tried many different kinds of affiliate programs online and have removed them because the products didn't fit or convert well. The best way to know is to just try out different things. I think you are off to a great start though and I love the layout.
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08-17-2008, 03:32 PM
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Lisa:
Thanks so much for the prompt and thorough reply.
To avoid a long response...
The site started as an experiment by using names and links of very well known business icons in their appropriate fields to see if that alone over time would drive traffic. I quickly realized three things:
1 It actually could work in the sense of being more of a relational journal by being transparent..."these are my own struggles, can anyone else relate"?
2 I found that I enjoy writing more than I thought I would and have more to say than I thought. I have a growing list of article topics and plan to add one to two articles per week; kind of like personal therapy
3 Focus on proven "Gurus" while exposing people to others who could be Gurus or are "claiming" to be Gurus. In other words, this is my way of monitoring all those selling services claiming to have answers.
So, I am not claiming to be ONE OF THEM, but rather pointing out those that are making the claim and who is justified in doing so...
I hope that gives you an idea of what I am setting out to do.
Also, I am personally not into the affiliate (brand someone else's product as your own for the purpose of selling it approach), Ebooks for example.
So, using affiliate re-sales is something I won't be doing. However, setting up a pass through link to Amazon for book sales of people I mention such as Seth Godin is something I will be doing. I am just not into promoting people for the sole purpose of making a buck. Obviously, by what I have written in the site, someone like Godin, is the real deal and has a proven track record.
That said, I was thinking about using a combination of an Adsense competitor in conjunction of Kontera as well as maybe a banner ad service like tribalfusion or fastclick. I don't have any experience or knowledge with any of these other than forum mentions. So, this is where I specifically wanted your feedback but didn't want to burden you with the "long story".
This last week, I also came up with an additional content idea that I will be talking about soon.
Thanks again for your site, forum, info, transparency and genuineness!
FYI: as I have been doing my homework in this area, I am currently impressed with two individuals in the making money online process and you are one of the two!
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08-17-2008, 04:46 PM
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I'm actually glad you told your story because I wasn't really clear on where you were going with the site but now I understand.  As I said, I don't have any more suggestions in the CPC program area as I've only used AdSense and AdBrite. I don't like Kontera as I think it's too intrusive.
And as you probably know, I make most of my money by being an affiliate and referring products, which is something you aren't really into so not sure my advice will give you what you need. As I said, hopefully others will chime in and give you some other suggestions on what has worked for them. I do know that Kontera, AdSense and AdBrite are definitely the front runners in terms of payouts.
You may also want to look into some of the banner CPM networks that pay you per banner impressions. Advertising.com is one example and there are tons of others. They work similar to AdSense but you display banners instead and get paid per impression and sometimes click (depending on the program). I'm very particular about what banners I display so I've never gotten into these programs much.
I do wish you the best. Looks like you've got a good plan going.
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08-17-2008, 07:01 PM
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I don't mean to nitpick but your link for Tim sanders on gurus, is missing the . after www
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08-17-2008, 08:12 PM
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eagleswingwis:
Good catch! Thanks...
link is now fixed.
hate when that happens
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08-17-2008, 08:27 PM
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I believe that is a no charge moment.
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08-18-2008, 08:23 AM
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found it ?
I think I might have found something interesting:
A network that offers different formats for monetizing like the "classic" intext ads, banners in videos and other search formats.
One thing that might interest many webmasters is the search page you can include in parked domain pages.
You don't even need content and you can earn some money. 
I know I have a few of those... lack of time to write contents....
The name of the web and company is adoptim- i have registered and am waiting to be approved
Then testing will begin and I will keep you informed -- it's nice to know there are alternatives...
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08-20-2008, 08:12 AM
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I've been approved by adoptim
Am gonna start testing... Anyone out there have any feedback before I do?
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09-10-2008, 09:06 AM
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Hey guys
here's an update on what I've done with Adoptim.
I started out with "regular" campaigns - banners .
Once that is conclusive, I ll test the intext ad and invideo ad by Adoptim.
I managed 1 sale in just a couple of weeks from 2509 impressions and 356 clicks and 2 leads.
I earned 54$, I am now waiting to get my first payment as it's a min of 50$ they pay twice a month
So this in mind, next week I should get paid and continue testing with all the other tools
It's a beginning; I guess we have to wait a bit to earn more.
Hope this stands, so we do have alternatives....
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09-10-2008, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lea
Thanks Lisa, great forum you got here BTW
Adbrite, I have heard of it, but haven't tried it yet - is it banners only?
As For Kontera, ya I have tried it, but I have videos on one of my websites, and I'd like to be able to monetize that as well...
Actually, I don't find that so intrusive, since the visitor chooses to click or not... and it doesn't really bother the view.
But right agian, Lisa, it is totally subjective
still open to suggestions... and searching 
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Since you have videos on your site..did you read Lisa's post about becoming a YouTube partner? This may work in your favor....just a thought. Best of luck.
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