LOL... Are you serious?! This whole time I have been going through the pain of adding each single page and selecting it when I am placing a link.

I specifically remember emailing CJ support about this issue, and that was the impression I was under... I guess it was a year long misunderstanding!

Whoops. I hope I didn't misguide anyone!

Sherif

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Yep, been doing it this way since I joined in 2000. Although I wouldn't be surprised if CJ gave you that impression. Their support is often um.... less than stellar.

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I have a web hosting sky ad banner running on the right from CJ. I have two referral hosting links on my page footer as well. Both the ad banner and links show up on every page of the site thou. That's about it right now.

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Yeah you're going to need some more editorial/contextual links (reviews, links within articles, etc.). Banners have never done too much for me. Unless you have a lot of traffic or a very well targeted niche, it's hard to get banners to convert.

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To increase my odds of earning revenue i would have to monetize every page. Should i be monetizing each page with different product? The only monetizing source i can think of is php related books and php hosting.

Does amazon books convert well?

I have some contextual hosting referral links in the "php introduction page" of the beginners guide.

how much is too much. i posted my traffic stats above. i don't have much. i get 50 to 90 visits a day..mostly from google search.

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Hey webdev,

Amazon books are all relative and depends on your audience, how well they fit into your site and how well you PREsell them to your visitors. (PREsell...I've been reading too much Ken Evoy. )

Anything can convert well if you present it right. Writing reviews is a great way to peek some interest. Let your visitors know you've actually bought the product and give the pros and cons. But in order to make any decent money from Amazon you'll need a lot more traffic than you are receiving.

I don't think you should monetize every page because sometimes it gets too obvious that you are trying to get people to buy something. But again I guess it varies depending on your site.

With your niche, I would say you want to shoot for at least 1,000 visitors per day to start seeing any decent amount of income. The bottom line is you need more traffic... much more.

Remember there are no black and white answers in terms of how much is too much or how well Amazon converts. It's all relative depending on your site, audience, how well you write/market. While Amazon may convert at 10% on someone's site, another person could convert poorly at 1% if they aren't connecting with their visitors and/or don't know how to blend the right products into their site.

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How long have you had this website? I would be patient... take a step back, and you may get a better idea on how to retain visitors on your site.

I don't think you need to necessarily monetize each page, but if you find an opportunity to monetize a page, definitely take advantage of it.

I think the design and organization are great! Can you tell if people are downloading it or not? Maybe they are downloading it, then they bounce. Is it free? If it is, maybe you should drop in the word "free". Can you possibly collect their emails in return of the downloads? You can market it as you will update them about new updates to the website or new and cool stuff in the world of PHP.

Is it possible that your competitors are just checking out what else is out there... and maybe actual visitors interested in your information will come soon?


As far as monetizing your PHP website in general... (sorry this is a little basic, but it may lead you to some ideas) what else would someone looking up php codes be interested in... coffee? comics of a certain kind? php-based unique stuff? geeky t-shirts?

What about a market of people who might need PHP but do not know it. For example, I signed up for a grad class last semester (i ended up dropping it) about Perl programming for biologists... who would have thought that some biologists would need Perl programming... think of PHP based applications of interest to different groups of people, and maybe you would be able to market your services to them (although this may be more time consuming that you want).

Also, have you considered being a free-lancer... where someone can hire you to write a specific program?

What about college students who are taking PHP courses... they may appreciate your help (for a small fee )

Take a step back, a deep breath, and I am sure you will come up with great stuff!

I will let you know if I think of other ideas.

I would be careful with that... it may get you in trouble with Google.

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You know, I didn't want to say anything, but now that you mention it, I do not recall ever being satisfied with their responses... they never understand/answer my question fully... anyway

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wow! that's a lot of great ideas ssmorgan. I will have to sit a think about each one carefully. Only if i could for see what will work and that way i can start taking my website in that direction. The fact that everything is trial and error and you don't know what you're doing is going to work...is what drives you crazy about all this.

I have had my site up for month and a half now. Traffic is under 100 visits a day and i have 22 pages so far.

I do freelancing on the side but not much. Not sure if advertising my web development skills on my site will actually land me any customers. Not sure if i want to do freelancing anymore. Its a lot of headache and people expect you to do the job really cheap.

I like your idea of targeting towards students. They would present a perfect target. I suppose i could go back to my university and let me computer science professor know about my site and he can pass it it around to his students. The tutorials on my site could be a great help to students getting started with PHP. He teaches a web development course and covers a bit of PHP in his syllabus.
I could also launch a mini job site with in my php site for college students and fresh graduates where they can post, share and find tech jobs.

Speaking of different applications in PHP. I have digg like community portal web application which i made in spare time some time ago. I suppose i could release the source code of that app as oa pen source project. That would sure get people coming to my site. But do i want to give that out for free? I don't know. I worked too hard on it. I want to make a buck off it if i'm going to give the source code away. But then again i don't know if that is going to work or im just gonna set myself up for another disappointment.

Last few days i've been thinking about expanding the site and adding more features to for the users. I'm talking to designer for improving the site design and im thinking of introducing a members area to the site where people can leave comments. With that adding a new letter would be great addition too. thanks for the brilliant idea. thank

So expect a lot great things to come on my site in the next few weeks

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I will expect great things from you, Webdev!

I am glad you find some of my ideas helpful.

By the way, I think that getting 100 visitors a day and you've only had the website for a month and a half is not bad at all... I think it's pretty good, actually! You will build on your content, and before you know it, you will have 220 pages and 10,000 visitors a day!

I think it's a great idea that you contact your old professor, but I would think about his reaction, and think about how you want to present it to him. Some professors may not be supportive of the idea, because they may think that you would just charge students to do their homework for them... so I would give it some thought first before you approach professors.

Maybe you can advertise privately to students (like in student newspaper, flyers around campus, etc) and at the same time, approach your old professors and tell them what you've been doing and ask them how you can engage the students with your website... the professors may give you excellent ideas, or can create the infrastructure through which students would get exposure to your website.

Fresh graduates and tech jobs... excellent idea!

Members Area... Excellent Idea!

Now, about the PHP open source, that's a tricky topic... on the one hand, I understand where you're coming from that you worked so hard on it and it would be hard for you to open it up to every one... on the other hand, having an open source would certainly bring people back and you might get lucky. To be honest, I am not too familiar with the whole open source scene () but I know Firefox, for example, is (may be, I am not too sure) an open source, where others can build their own applications... and now they are stealing market share from Microsoft! You may want to look at similar case studies and see how companies like Firefox were able to build a huge success based on an open source model.

My ignorance about open source may quickly become apparent to someone who is more familiar with the topic, but I think the principle is still accurate, i.e. giving something away for free may not necessarily mean that you won't make money off of it.

Now, the tricky part is when do you know whether you will succeed or not when you have to make a decision like that. Unfortunately, you do not! But do not think of it as setting yourself up for disappointment. On the risk of sounding corny, the hard truth is that you learn the most when you do not succeed. Notice I did not say you learn the most when you fail... because failure only happens when you give up. As long as you're out there trying your best, learning from your mistakes, and keeping your eyes on the destination, you will not get distracted by the little challenges that come up on the way, and you will eventually accomplish what you sought out to accomplish.

Phew, I didn't know I would be so corny so late/early in the morning

I think you're doing great! Keep up the good work!

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