Hi All, I am new to this group, and am happy to be here.

Where do the large companies go to create the domains they sell to us? I would like to be able to go to ICANN (or whereever) to be able to create my own domain(s) instead of paying others.
Does anyone know where the larger companies go to create the domans we get from them??

Thanks very much,
Don, in Vegas
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First of all, Welcome to the forums!

"ICANN" As far as I know this is correct, although I think there may be other companies involved. I certainly know that GoDaddy for example has to may a percentage of each domain sale to ICANN. All I know is if you wanted to that you would have to pay A LOT of money because they wouldn't just allow anyone to use their services. Put it this way if you wanted to resell domains using Enom you would have to pay around $3000. So imagine going directly to ICANN, my guess would be $100,000's +.

Just curious, why would you want to unless you had a huge domain selling business?

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I am looking for a free place to get a domain. My wife and I run forums in several languages. I am developing an English language forum and do not want to pay a company for a domain name, uif it can be legit avoided.. I just bought the services of a guy on eBay. He gets a commission from the providor, as it should be. Then I find that there was more to it. I payed him a very small 34.95 which was supposed to be for the page, and I find out that it was just free $$$ to him. At this point he has no credability and I do not want to do business with him further. he can keep the 35 and I will call t a cheap lesson.
He registered a domain and said he got it from ICANN. He has low cred with me for the moment, and I can be the one that is wrong and he is correct. I did not pay a penny for what he did. If he can do that I can,, too. (no ICANN pun intended. . I just want to know how. If it cannot be don, where can I get the domain free or very low cost with a great deal for a phpbb.

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it.

Don in Vegas

I sell domain names through a reseller site starting as low as $1.99 for .info and $9.99 fir a .com. How much closer to zero do you have to get? I don't self promote here my site here, but want to make a point that there are many affordable domain name sites. Very little is ever truly free. And if it sounds to good to be true, it might just be.

The key thing is to be with a credible company. To many people are on the web to make money any way they can. At least you have a good attitude and sense to move forward and learn from the past.

Best of Luck

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Great advice. Hey Bill im looking for a domain reseller and im wondering if you have any advice? Im currently looking at Enom because I can intergrate the account well with my billing software. Do you have any experience with Enom?

Thanks.

phpBB is included with most hosting services. It's pretty much impossible to get a free .com domain name because the comapanies offering those sort of deals will certainly make up for it some where.

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Sorry, no experience with Enom.

You are right about the free domain and making it up somewhere else. Heck, I would give someone a free .info name even if they took the minimum $5 per month hosting. I would make basically nothing this year, but at renewal and any other products they bought or referrals they send would make up for it.

I may start a thread in the next couple weeks if appropriate about all the pros and cons of a reseller account. So far I have lost less then $200 the past couple years. Yes, lost. It is not being utilized fully, but serves a purpose for me right now. The thread will be non promotional. It is important before people run out and get one of these with the premed storefronts that it is not an easy money machine. Lisa repeats that over and over all the time. If it was easy, everyone would get one.

Here is one reseller tip right now. Without you having your own (custom) store front with unique content your web selling site using a premade canned setup won't even get indexed by itself in 3 years because they are all duplicate to the tee and offers no original content for the person doing the search, which is one of Googles primary goals. That is the voice of experience speaking.

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Yeah man I agree. You certainly have to think down the line.

Oh your right that's quite a loss but think about the knowledge you gained. It really depends what sort of reseller account your talking about. There are 2 types of reseller accounts the "read made" (Godaddy) storefronts and the "nothing included" (HostGator) reseller accounts.

With Godaddys reseller it really is re-selling. You purchase the hosting configure the options and start selling using GoDaddys look. There is no way to grow a real unique hosting company because your using the exact same layout as Godaddy, they provide the support I think it's their prices although I’m not sure. I think of this reselling as a franchise. The only time a GoDaddy reseller account will work if you have a related site with LOTS of traffic or your willing to spend lots of money/time promoting GoDaddys hosting.

With HostGators reseller account (and the majority of resellers) it's all up to you. Most resellers do not provide support, do not give you a ready-made storefront or anything like that. This reseller is the real deal if you want to someday have your own datacenter, staff, servers etc. The only thing my website has to do with HostGator is my customers sites are hosted on HostGators servers and they manage the server administration. I

- created my site
- created my blog
- branded/marketed my site
- come up with plans/prices
- installed whmcs billing/support software and made it unique
- come up with all the content from scratch
- installed live chat/customised
- provide support for customers
- customised cPanel

It's almost impossible to see I’m a HostGator reseller because I have my own branding, prices, plans, website etc. The next step for me is purchasing a VPS/Dedicated Server.

When people think of reseller hosting they think straight away Godaddy ready made storefront but most reseller hosting is not like that.

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That's a great point. It's hard enough getting search engine traffic in web hosting already because the market is so saturated. Without a main website with huge traffic to send to your reseller store you will not make it successful. The only way to make it in web hosting now is to do something differen't and straight away choosing a ready made store front your doomed to fail because you have no control over anything.

For anyone looking to start a web host:

1) go for the real reseller hosting not a ready made store
2) do something different
3) don't try and compete on price because it's impossible.
4) people are willing to pay more if your offering something unique
5) don't be too scared by hostagator/godaddy etc because they also have disadvantages. There is still many people who would rather buy from a smaller host because the support will be more personal.

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But to start a webhosting company or even a reselling i guess we will need to have some expert level knowledge of the troubleshooting of different problems..

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You certainly need to have good knowledge of cPanel and DNS. As a reseller you don't really need much more knowledge than this. Once you move up to a dedicated server more knowledge is needed.

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