Website Babble Webmaster Forums  
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-21-2007, 11:25 AM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 63
Default Blog vs. Website

There is a major trend going on with people deciding to create free blogs instead of websites. If you are on a budget (as many people are) is it a good idea to start with a blog before you invest in a domain and web host?

I've often thought of starting a blog and if you think about it, you can accomplish the same things as you can a website.

Also, what blog sites are best?
__________________
Is it Friday yet?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
Default

There are two big blog sites which let you create blogs with out having to purchase a domain and hosting.

The first is one is blogger.com
- In less than 5 steps you can create free blog in under 2 minutes
- They give you about 500mb of storage
- your domain becomes yourblogname.blogger.com
- no html or scripting knowledge required.
- create as many blogs as possible.

The other is wordpress.com
Same as blogger but they have too much technical information on their website and for someone who is new, it can be over overwhelming.


If you are looking to set up a blog right away, then you will find that blogger.com is the easiest of them all and really powerful.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-21-2007, 06:29 PM
amybiddle's Avatar
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ithaca, NY, USA
Posts: 41
Default

Hi Miles - what an excellent question!

Blogs and web sites can look much the same to the untrained person. And most readers don't care if you have a blog or a web site.

Both have pages. Both can be used as the basis for making money.

Until recently, many blogging platforms very nearly completely ignored the importance of keywords (some had tagging capabilities, which work slightly differently than meta tags).

In fact, I read recently that only the most recent version of WordPress has offered the ability to tag individual posts. This feature is really important if you want search engines to find posts (you do).

Another feature of blogging is that RSS is built in to most blogging platforms. Until recently, many web sites didn't offer RSS.

[Warning: Blatant SBI love shout ahead]

SBI sites offer the best of both worlds - a kind of hybrid. You can "site blog" (RSS feature is offered for each new page you create - including "pinging" every new page that you publish). Site blogging allows you to show new pages as blog posts (search engines currently find these faster). Then, after the blog posting is stale, the listing roles to your actual site page.

Imagine having a feature (no need to imagine!) that uses the time-sensitive publishing of blogging that super-accelerates the indexing of your web site pages!! Wow. SBI does that.

I guess in some ways blogs seem fresh and cool. A lot are. People like the "nowness" of the content (which you have to keep up with to keep your readers' attention!) and the fact that you can have a dialogue (using comments). Blogs also naturally promote link sharing and networking.

SBI is currently (but not for much longer) not offering a full blogging capability. However a new module is coming in the next few (months? weeks? I'm holding my breath in anticipation) that will allow integration of a blog (like Blogger or Typepad) with your SBI site. Now - this may not seem earth shattering - but I'm totally jazzed.

Here's why: my site is nearing 200 pages. It is nearly 2 years old. Search engines like stability and depth like that. They also like regular posts. I blog nearly every day at my new blog. I get brownie points (well, really google-points like good page rank and good search engine visibility) for new material and longevity and links to my site (they all work like this, SBI or not). Adding a blog will create a new way for visitors to find my site. My blog is also linked from many pages of my site. Good for links. Good for page rank. Good for traffic!

In the end, blogging is just another way to let people find you. It's another way to put your message/product/service out to the world. I use both to maximize my exposure. Oh, and the other reason is that I like to play and learn about both - so I'm having fun too.

I guess there are other reasons for blogging vs building a site (and strong reasons for both). I'm reading some cool books right now on blogging - Robert Scoble, JD Frazer, Andy Wibbels - and each one so far has pointed out to me that blogging really is just a different interface for creating a content web site with a few more bells and whistles thrown in.

Now about that free thing...

RSS and a new blog are all very well and good, but you still have to let the world know you're there. Blogging with a free platform you may get some help from fellow bloggers - but likely you'll need to work at getting traffic from others by actively seeking links (just as you do with any site you pay for as well.)

Here's the exception (applies to sites and well as blogs): if you are offering a product, service or information that is inherently viral (ie - people will spread the word for you), in some ways it doesn't matter what platform you use online. If you have something really good (Facebook, MySpace) you can "build it and they will come".

How many times in a million ideas does this happen?

Most of us here are building smaller empires (who knows how big they might get?) that may or may not go viral (in varying degrees within our own niches.)

My arguement for "free" or "paid" service remains the same -

1- whoever pays the piper calls the tune

2- you get what you pay for

3- with a business, what you OWN and CONTROL is your greatest asset (think about this in terms of what your domain name looks like, what ads appear on your pages - and do you control them - among other things.
__________________
Amy
-----------------------
Real life marketing solutions for your small business!
SiteSOHO.com
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2007, 10:09 AM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 63
Default

Wow, Amy... what a reply. Thanks so much for your feedback. I guess I never really thought of it that way. Blogs really aren't much different than websites when it comes to getting traffic. I think that's the biggest challenge of everyone and I'm certainly learning about that after being on this board. It's about finding your target audience no matter what.

I have to admit I used to think a blog was sort of a shortcut but I guess there really are no shortcuts. The same principles apply.
__________________
Is it Friday yet?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2007, 10:11 AM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 63
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by webdev View Post

The other is wordpress.com
Same as blogger but they have too much technical information on their website and for someone who is new, it can be over overwhelming.


If you are looking to set up a blog right away, then you will find that blogger.com is the easiest of them all and really powerful.
Thanks webdev, I see your blog is wordpress. Are they free like blogger?
__________________
Is it Friday yet?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2007, 01:18 PM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
Default

Miles,

They are free just like blogger. But if you want to install word press on your hosting so it points to your domain name instead pointing yourblogname.wordpress.com, then you have to go through their installation guide. But fortunately, there are web hosts which will install wordpress on your hosting account with one click. I went with anhosting, they are a recommended host by wordpress.com. Hope that helps.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2007, 02:51 PM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 94
Default

blogging is a good way of making money yes... but you also have to remember that you need traffic to that blog and who would just go to a blog to know something about someone? if you have a website then you can provide alot more information even stuff about yourself and more!

Thanks
Seclinix
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2007, 09:22 AM
lisa's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,435
Default

Hi Miles

Allan Gardyne did a great article a while back on why you shouldn't use a free blog. Some guy had a blog at blogger.com and he was getting a TON of traffic. He had not done any spamming but for some reason it was shut down and he never got an explanation. He lost a ton of traffic.

Now I'm sure this is not the norm but it does make you think. I have a blog at blogger.com and I really wish I had put one on my own domain.

I am starting another site soon and I chose typepad.com. I heard good things about them and so far I like them. As Webdev says, wordpress is good too.

As Amy said, SBI! does have a built in blog but I wish it functioned more like a generic blog where you can journalize and it's not just tied to your site updates.
__________________
Don't put the cart before the horse.
Plan your website, then create it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Recent Blog Posts...

Make Money as a YouTube Partner
Don't Discount Amazon's Affiliate Program
Finally! AdSense Ads for Feedburner!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2007, 03:09 PM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 94
Default

wow shutdown just like that?!? that probably wasn't a good move, most of the domain hosting companies today need to host domain names so that they cn sell their company for a load of money!!! Some domain name had done this before they made their domain a subdomain to other people and then they sold it for 250k lots of money
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-25-2007, 09:34 PM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
Default

I hate blogs that say absolutely nothing. If you are going to start a blog make it funny, unique or do something to stand out. My time is precious and I certainly don't have time to read regurgiated (sp?) content!
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:25 AM.



WB Sponsors

Profit Lance Review

affiliate network

Work At Home Jobs

Expert PPC Coaching



 Subscribe to the Website Babble Feeds

2 Create a Website Homepage | 2 Create a Website Blog


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0