Website Babble Webmaster Forums  

  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 12:11 PM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
webdev has a few positive reputation points
Default making money advertising other peoples websites?

making money advertising other peoples websites?

How does that work? How is that possible?

This guy claims that he is a google recognized adword professional. He claims to be making money off other people websites by advertising therm through ad words.
http://www.googlemoneypro.com/moreinfo.htm

How is that possible?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 01:34 PM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
ppcFanatic has a few positive reputation points
Default

So basically he is an affiliate for several different companies. He then creates ads for tjhese products on AdWords and makes a profit on them. Now I have no idea what the "Professional Exam" entails but apparently he passed it and earned this rank. He is probably very clever at writing ads and generating a profit (good ROI). Good for him!
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 01:50 PM
GreenThumb's Avatar
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 54
GreenThumb has a few positive reputation points
Default

Sorry but what's an ROI?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 03:51 PM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
webdev has a few positive reputation points
Default

Quote:
He is probably very clever at writing ads and generating a profit (good ROI). Good for him!
So basically, you need have the creative and marketing knowledge and skills to convert your clicks into sales. Do you think you need do your own creative tailored to the products you are advertising to do adword campaigning? What if you link your ad word campaign right to merchant product page/website? Does that work for you?

Quote:
Sorry but what's an ROI?
ROI stands for Return on Investment.

Let you advertise a merchant's product using google adword campaign at $.10 a click. Let say the product your are advertising is $10 and you earn a comission of $4 on each sale.

So, by the end of day if you had 100 clicks and 10 sales on your campaign. That means you spent $10 on advertising and you made $40 in sales revenue (10 * $4). Which means your ROI was $30 ($40 - $10).

ppcFanatic can you clarify if im on the right track?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 04:28 PM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
ppcFanatic has a few positive reputation points
Default

Creativity is so key. Some people are great at writing killer headlines and getting the click but can't convert the sale once the visitor lands on the landing page. It takes a lot of practice. My ROI is nothing where I'd like it to be but I'm making a profit and trying to really work on my ad copy if I don't like the merchant's sales page.

Some products have a strong enough sales page where you don't need to create your own landing page. I promote a lot of Clickbank products and if you've ever noticed that many of the clickbank product landing pages are very well written with good sales copy. Occasionally I'll write something myself using a squeeze page but most of the time I try to find products with good sales pages so I don't have to re-write anything.

Clickbank also lets you sort products by "Gravity". In other words they tell you how many distinct affiliates earned money promoting the book over a given period. If the gravity is high it usually means the product is new and/or converting well. If it's too high I try to stay away because that means there are probably a lot of AdWords campaigns on it but if it's too low that means it's probably hard to convert. So I try to find products with a mid-Gravity.

For example, go to Google and type in "keyword elite" with no quotes. (Keyword Elite is a Clickbank product) Look at all the adwords campaigns on the right. I tend to stay away from products with a lot of advertisers. Yes, this product probably converts pretty well but there's too much competition.

That's why I always suggest getting a good book on how to get the most out of AdWords before trying it. You can lose a lot of money. I sure did in the beginning and my ROI is still not where I want it to be.
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 05:39 PM
GreenThumb's Avatar
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 54
GreenThumb has a few positive reputation points
Default

Thanks webdev for the clarification on ROI.

So ppc, you don't have to have a website necessarily to promote adwords? I didn't realize that. I certainly wouldn't be trying AdWords at my experience level but this is interesting stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2007, 08:52 PM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
ppcFanatic has a few positive reputation points
Default

Nope. No site needed. You can use the merchant's site as long as no one else is using it for the keywords you are targeting. Google only allows one top level domain per keyword phrase bid.

So let's say you are wanting to promote your affiliate link under the keywords "hot dogs" and your affiliate link from the merchant company you are using for AdWords is
affiliate107.hotdogs.com but someone else is bidding on the same keywords and their affiliate link is affiliate108.hotdogs.com (hotdogs is the top level part of the domain) Google will not allow more than one top level domain for the same keywords. That's why people often buy their own domains just for adwords.
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2007, 06:59 AM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
webdev has a few positive reputation points
Default

Hey ppcFanatic, thanks for sharing that info.

Question i have...
So, can you make your own domain name for your adword campaign? or do you have to buy a domain name?

OH! and would you recommend www.googlemoneypro.com? Is there a cheaper and ligit manual out there?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2007, 10:35 AM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
ppcFanatic has a few positive reputation points
Default

I'm not sure what you mean by "make your own domain." The only way I know to get a domain name is to register one.

Here's a great book...
http://www.amazon.com/Winning-Result.../dp/0072257024

I honestly don't know much about googlemoneypro but if this guy is as good as he seems to be then it may be worth having.
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2007, 11:06 AM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
webdev has a few positive reputation points
Default

Quote:
I'm not sure what you mean by "make your own domain."
Well, you know how on a google adword campaign you can make up your domain name on the bottom url text. Let say im advertising lsd monitors. My actual domain name could be www.example.com but i can actually make it appear www.good-LCD-monitors.com on my google ad word campaign. Does google allow this? DO you buy separate domain for each of your different niche campaigns?

Thanks for the book recommendation. I've bookmarked that amazon link for later use.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2007, 11:43 AM
ppcFanatic's Avatar
Master Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 165
ppcFanatic has a few positive reputation points
Default

I see what you mean. If you want it to appear as example.com the content still needs to reside on example.com so the link would need to be example.com/page1.htm for example. You can never use domainA.com for your display URL if your content is sitting on domainB.com. Does that make sense? I've never seen a display URL with a totally different top-level domain after you click on the link. If the display is example.com then the content needs to reside somewhere on example.com.

And yes you can use that same domain for multiple campaigns if you wish. I advertise several different products on one domain. I just create new pages within the domain for each campaign.

So I may have 5 different campaigns but the landing pages are
example.com/adidas.html (targeting keyword "adidas)
example.com/jewelry.html (targeting keyword "jewlery")
example.com/weight-loss (targeting keyword "weight loss")
__________________
Severely Addicted to AdWords

Last edited by ppcFanatic; 05-27-2007 at 12:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-28-2007, 05:33 PM
Supreme Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 563
webdev has a few positive reputation points
Default

[quote]
So I may have 5 different campaigns but the landing pages are
example.com/adidas.html (targeting keyword "adidas)
example.com/jewelry.html (targeting keyword "jewlery")
example.com/weight-loss (targeting keyword "weight loss")
[/quoute]

ahhh...that makes sense.

Hey ppcFanatic, I know you have been doing ppc for a while. Few question i have been wanted to ask you. How would you describe your experience so far? How tough is the marketing part, getting the clicks and the converting them into sales? What's the average click to sale ratio? How long is the Google ad word learning curve?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-09-2007, 09:18 AM
Junior Babbler
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2
paulallen has a few positive reputation points
Send a message via Yahoo to paulallen
Default Great site thanks

New to these forums, but have learned so much already, thankyou all so very much. I just wonder, do you think, the checks they show on some of them websites are for real ? Or the commisions they make on clickbank, and they say here is " proof" it works.. cant they copy that and paste it to anything, how do we really know its thiers, we dont do we ? t hanks..... Paul
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-09-2007, 08:34 PM
Regular Babbler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 63
miles has a few positive reputation points
Default

I think some are real but not all. It's so easy to fake a commission check or earning report that I believe a lot of marketers are doing it.
__________________
Is it Friday yet?
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-29-2007, 08:20 PM
LizGazer_OPM's Avatar
Junior Babbler
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cyberspace, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3
LizGazer_OPM has a few positive reputation points
Thumbs up Free e-book on Affiliate Marketing Basics

If you're new to affiliate marketing, here is a FREE .pdf file written by a friend and affiliate marketing contact of mine (Vinny from NYFalcon.com & awesomegang.com - a public advice forum which he's still working on - feel free to check it out), which overviews the basics of affiliate marketing, how it works, and how you can get started at becoming a self-employed, affiliate marketer in your own right.

http://www.nyfalcon.com/TheBasicsOfA...eMarketing.pdf

Be forewarned - this is NOT a get rich quick scheme nor is it MLM or anything like Primerica or Amway. I repeat - it is NOT a get rich quick scheme. It is a legitimate means of doing business online.

Affiliate marketing is a "Cost-per-action" biz model - a means of making money by advertising merchants products and services on your site, by linking to their sites, whereby you are paid a "referral fee" on each resulting lead, sale or click, depending on how the program is set up - it varies from program to program.

If you're interested in becoming an affiliate, interested in launching a program for your own e-biz, or just want a free way to learn about how it works, download the e-book from the url posted above (I make no money off this - it is a FREE, safe download from NYFalcon.com - I know the webmaster personally and he's good people) and take some time to read it online or print it and read it offline - the choice is yours.

Best regards,
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:59 PM.



WB Sponsors

Profit Lance Review

Houston Web Design

Search Engine Optimization

flash chat



 Subscribe to the Website Babble Feeds

2 Create a Website Homepage | 2 Create a Website Blog


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0