hey thanks for the replys pagewizard is the free editor that came with my hostmonster account. i found out you were right about the insert html thing is for webcounters and such but even when i go to edit the whole sorce thing it already has its own background code in there and when i try to change it nothing happens! hmm. anyone know any better, preferbly free website editors?

p.s. i tryed doing it with and without the # before the hexcode.